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anonmachina's avatar

Exquisite.

I contemplate moving to Spain...the U.S. veering ever-closer to descending into an economic abyss.

However, Spain is essentially a failed Socialist State, presently dependent (to considerable extent) on handouts from the EU to remain solvent.

Should Spain ever return to standing on its own, I may reconsider living there.

Kelly Fryer's avatar

Hmmm…the US is a failed capitalist state dependent on the exploitation of working people to benefit the corrupt billionaires and prop up the oligarchs who have destroyed the social safety net, the public education system, the shared infrastructure of roads and bridges and public services, civil rights, and democracy itself. No wonder a record number of us have left, marking 2025 as the first time the U.S. has had net negative migration since the 1930s. But yeah, Spain is scary. Please stay right where you are. No one on the sane side of the border wants you here.

anonmachina's avatar

I do not disagree with your response, except that the U.S. has not been a capitalist state for decades now, but instead has an economy modeled concordant with cronyism, a situation tolerated and propagated by the corrupt in all positions of power...and the populace.

Of course, a few things have changed, and not for the better.

Though still improbable, should Russia tire of the EU contributing to U.S. attempt at subversion or conquest (via Ukraine), given Russia's (present) preferrence for conventional military engagement, I prefer to be on this side of the planet.

(Of course, a nuclear engagement would negate the advantage of distance....but may ultimately prove an improvement in world peace.

/not sarcasm

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Cesar H.Navarro's avatar

Where do you get the idea that Spain is a failed socialist state?

Spain is a parliamentary monarchy, now governed by a social democratic party, which is only orthodox in name, just as the Democratic Party in the USA is called left-wing, when it is entirely centrist.

Spain is the fourth largest contributor in the EU. The days of super-subsidized countries, as Poland and Belgium are now, are long gone.

Look at the EU budget

https://www.euronews.com/business/2024/12/09/eu-budget-who-pays-the-most-into-the-eu-and-who-gains-the-most

Lucy's avatar

Salamanca is certainly one of the most beautiful cities I've seen in Spain. Elche is super underrated as well, and food options are amazing.

Talkin' Tucson Discovery's avatar

There must be tons of overlooked cities in Spain. But two of them we loved were Alicante, and north of there the small city of Denia. Both on the Mediterranean coast.

Audra by the Sea's avatar

Have been to Cadiz & Girona from this list. Both are amazing but Girona stole my heart. One of the most amazing experiences was listening to a young lady play the handpan on the cathedral steps. 💕

Emily Michalek's avatar

Genuinely wondering, why does Valencia never seem to make these lists? I know it’s third largest and reasonably well known, but its beauty seems passed over quite often. Love to hear others thoughts!